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Dr. Cheyne was a medical writer of the last century.

A. G----T.

_Wat the Hare_ (Vol. ii., p. 315.).--In the interesting, though perhaps
somewhat partial, account of the unsuccessful siege of Corfe Castle, during
the civil wars of the seventeenth century, which is given in the _Mercurius
Rusticus_, there is an anecdote which will give a reply to the Query of
your correspondent K. The commander of the Parliamentarian forces was Sir
Walter Erle; and it was a great joke with his opponents that the pass-word
of "Old Wat" had been given (by himself I believe) on the night of his last
assault on the castle. The chronicler informs us that "Old Wat" was the
usual notice of a hare being found sitting; and the proverbial timidity of
that animal suggested some odious comparisons with the defeated general.

I have not the book at hand, but I am pretty sure that the substance of my
information is correct.

C.W. BINGHAM.

Bingham's Melcombe, Blandford.

_Law Courts at St. Albans_ (Vol. i., p. 366.).--Although unable to answer
[Greek: S.], perhaps I may do him service by enabling him to put his Query
more correctly. The disease which drove the lawyers from London in the 6th
year of Elizabeth (1563) was not the _sweating sickness_ (which has not
returned since the reign of Edward VI.), but a plague brought into England
by the late garrison of Havre de Grace. And it was at _Hertford_ that
Candlemas term was kept on the occasions. See Heylyn, _Hist. Ref._, ed.
Eccl. Hist. Soc. ii. 401.

J.C.R.

_The Troubles at Frankfort_ (Vol. i., p. 379.).--In Petheram's edition of
this work, it is shown that Whittingham, dean of Durham, was most likely
the author. That Coverdale was not, appears from the circumstance that the
writer had been a party in the "Troubles," whereas Coverdale did not reside
at Frankfort during any part of his exile.

J.C.R.

_Standing during the Reading of the Gospel_ (Vol. ii., p. 246.).--

"Apostolica auctoritate mandamus, dum sancta Evangelia in Ecclesia
recitantur, ut Sacerdotes, et caeteri omnes presentes, non sedentes, sed
venerabiliter curvi, in conspectu Evangelii stantes Dominica verba
intente audiant, et fideliter adorent."--Anastasius, i., apud _Grat.
Decret. De Consecrat. Dist._, ii. cap. 68.

J. BE. {350}

_Scotch Prisoners at Worcester_ (Vol. ii., p. 297.).--I cannot think that
the extract from the accounts of the churchwardens of St. Margaret's,
Westminster, at all justifies C.F.S. in supposing that the Scotch prisoners
were massacred in cold blood. The total number of these prisoners was
10,000. Of the 1,200 who were buried, the greater part most probably died
of their wounds; and though this number is large, yet we must bear in mind
that in those days the sick and wounded were not tended with the care and
attention which are now displayed in such cases. We learn from the
_Parliamentary History_ (xx. 58.), that on the 17th Sep. 1651, "the Scots
prisoners were brought to London, and marched through the city into
Tothill-fields." The same work (xx. 72.) states that "Most of the common
soldiers were sent to the English Plantations; and 1500 of them were
granted to the Guiney merchants and sent to work in the Gold mines there."
Large numbers were also employed in draining the great level of the Fens
(Wells, _History of the Bedford Level_, i. 228-244.). Lord Clarendon (book
xiii.) says, "Many perished for want of food, and, being enclosed in little
room till they were sold to the plantations for slaves, they died of all
diseases."

C.H. COOPER.

Cambridge, Oct. 5. 1850.

_Scotch Prisoners at Worcester._--The following is Rapin's account of the
disposition of these prisoners, and even this statement he seems to doubt.
(Vol. ii. p. 585.)

"It is pretended, of the Scots were slain [at Worcester] about 2000,
and seven or eight thousand taken prisoners, who being sent to London,
were sold for slaves to the plantations of the American
isles."--Authorities referred to: Phillips, p. 608., Clarendon, iii. p.
320., Burnet's _Mem._ p. 432.

J.C.B.

"_Antiquitas Saeculi Juventus Mundi_" (Vol. ii., p. 218.).--A learned
friend, who although involved in the avocations of an active professional
career, delights "inter sylvas Academi quaerere verum," has favoured me with
the following observation on these words:--"That the phrase _Antiquitas
saeculi juventus mundi_ is in Italics in Bacon's work does not, in my
opinion, prove it to be a quotation, any more than the words _ordine
retrogrado_ in the subsequent passage. Italics were used in Bacon's time,
and long afterwards, to to mark not only quotations, but emphatic words,
[Greek: gnomai], and epigrammatic sentences, of which you will every where
see instances. I have not the original edition of the work, but we have
here[5] the rare translation into English by Gilbert Wats, Oxford, 1640,
folio, through which the references to authors are given in the margin; but
there is no reference appended to this passage. I cannot of course decide
positively that the phrase is not a quotation, but I incline to the opinion
that it is not. It may be an adaptation of some proverbial expression; but
I prefer believing that it is Bacon's own mode of expressing that the
present times are more ancient (_i.e._ full of years) than the earliest,
and thus to show that the respect we entertain for authority is unfounded."

Coleridge was of the same opinion (Introd. to _Encycl. Metrop._, p. 19.).
Had the phrase been a quotation, would not Bacon have said, "Sane ut vere
_dictum est_," rather than "Ut vere _dicamus_."

T.J.

[Footnote 5: Primate Marsh's library, St. Patrick's, Dublin, which contains
about 18,000 volumes, including the entire collection of Stillingfleet,
Bishop of Worcester.]

_The Lass of Richmond Hill_ (Vol. ii., p. 103.)--In reply to QUAERO, I beg
to say that he will find the words of the above song in the _Morning
Herald_ of August 1, 1789, a copy of which I possess. It is here described
as a "favourite song, sung by Mr. Incledon at Vauxhall; composed by Mr.
Hook."

J.B.

Walworth.

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